Nice evening with Steve.
May. 28th, 2004 10:49 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
angelakSince 10 minutes before I stepped into the office [when I first checked my mail from home] until now, it’s been a steady flow of work. Not bad.
Last night provided a very nice time.
We hung out. Paid the phone bill. Went to Shanghai Gardens in Issaquah with Steve. Had more philosophical/religious conversations. It’s a wonder… but suddenly we ARE able to discuss these things at will, and NOT argue. This is a first in our relationship.
His friend at work has opened him up, it seems. Suddenly we can talk about these things, and he can look at it objectively, [even if he doesn’t believe it,] and listen to me. Not that he was an asshole about it before…. But he didn’t truly listen before.
It’s a change that is interesting and new. I’m actually hearing his view of the world more and more. And it seems, that it’s constantly changing. He once told me something very different than he is telling me now, about his belief in regards to heaven and hell. I swear he explained a totally different chain of beliefs to me about 2 ½ years ago.
I’m more pleased with his views now, though I like mine better. At one point, [over 2 years ago…] he told me that he thought that people could go to hell in place of the ones’ they loved. For instance, him being Christian and all that, would make it to heaven [for being a good person, more than the fact that he is Christian]… and that I would probably go to hell. But that he could potentially choose to go to hell FOR me. I remember thinking it was sweet of him, but totally ludicrous. This was what he told me THEN.
Now he has a semi-belief that hell is just an insane asylum for people who can’t help themselves out of certain states of mind. He still believes in the heaven/hell analogy. But there were other discussions we had. For the most part, it’s relieving that he actually does sway closer to my viewpoints, than the traditional Christian viewpoint. He doesn’t follow the Bible as a word for word thing, as it was translated by men, therefore it’s accuracy is only as accurate as men are, which over time, is generally not that accurate.
We got into this whole discussion about how history gets recorded, and changed as it’s recorded and by who and how they change it and why, and how the effects of current norms and fancies get written in, and other details get dropped. So history may not be nearly as Christianted [my fake word] as the historians might have us believe…. And so on and so on.
Rather than his usual *this is how it is* debate style, it was ACTUALLY a suggestive style.
AMAZING.
Regardless. A nice evening. In all respects. I went to sleep not angry with Steve.
Though I wish my Friday could consist of a social activity, I think I may have to settle with another night with Steve. I know that sounds bad, but jeez. So many people I feel like seeing. *shrugs*
Work is going okay. Though I really *REALLY* want it to be 6PM. More updates possibly later.
-Angela
Last night provided a very nice time.
We hung out. Paid the phone bill. Went to Shanghai Gardens in Issaquah with Steve. Had more philosophical/religious conversations. It’s a wonder… but suddenly we ARE able to discuss these things at will, and NOT argue. This is a first in our relationship.
His friend at work has opened him up, it seems. Suddenly we can talk about these things, and he can look at it objectively, [even if he doesn’t believe it,] and listen to me. Not that he was an asshole about it before…. But he didn’t truly listen before.
It’s a change that is interesting and new. I’m actually hearing his view of the world more and more. And it seems, that it’s constantly changing. He once told me something very different than he is telling me now, about his belief in regards to heaven and hell. I swear he explained a totally different chain of beliefs to me about 2 ½ years ago.
I’m more pleased with his views now, though I like mine better. At one point, [over 2 years ago…] he told me that he thought that people could go to hell in place of the ones’ they loved. For instance, him being Christian and all that, would make it to heaven [for being a good person, more than the fact that he is Christian]… and that I would probably go to hell. But that he could potentially choose to go to hell FOR me. I remember thinking it was sweet of him, but totally ludicrous. This was what he told me THEN.
Now he has a semi-belief that hell is just an insane asylum for people who can’t help themselves out of certain states of mind. He still believes in the heaven/hell analogy. But there were other discussions we had. For the most part, it’s relieving that he actually does sway closer to my viewpoints, than the traditional Christian viewpoint. He doesn’t follow the Bible as a word for word thing, as it was translated by men, therefore it’s accuracy is only as accurate as men are, which over time, is generally not that accurate.
We got into this whole discussion about how history gets recorded, and changed as it’s recorded and by who and how they change it and why, and how the effects of current norms and fancies get written in, and other details get dropped. So history may not be nearly as Christianted [my fake word] as the historians might have us believe…. And so on and so on.
Rather than his usual *this is how it is* debate style, it was ACTUALLY a suggestive style.
AMAZING.
Regardless. A nice evening. In all respects. I went to sleep not angry with Steve.
Though I wish my Friday could consist of a social activity, I think I may have to settle with another night with Steve. I know that sounds bad, but jeez. So many people I feel like seeing. *shrugs*
Work is going okay. Though I really *REALLY* want it to be 6PM. More updates possibly later.
-Angela
